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href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-27386.html"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=27386&size=small" /></a></dd> <dt> <span class="y xw0"> </span> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-27386.html" target="_blank" class="xi2">billyexpert</a><em id="author_655835"> 发表于</em> <span class="xg1 xw0">2010-7-10 23:20:31</span> </dt> <dd class="z"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_655835"> 其实，个人感觉，日本人的特点不是创新，而是塌塌实实的把一件事情做好，做的更精，简单来说就是，怎么把一件事情做好。从创新能力上来讲，德国人向来是走在前面的，从历史可以看出，核武器，喷气式飞机，火箭等创新和构想给现代社会造成的影响可以说是非常深远的，简单来说，就是把一件事情做好以后，在此基础上我还能干些什么。美国人嘛，在性能指标上，往往非常出众，虽然某些产品指标上有浮夸成分，但实际指标也确实是比较优秀的，也简单说来就是，我能把一件事情做的最好，我就是最好的，所以我要卖个好价钱。<br /> <br /> 顺便说一下，中国的科研成果，简单来说，就是我能做的多好（而不考虑能否产品化实现这个优点）。中国的工业成果就是，我的成本能压到多低，能卖得多便宜，能占领多少市场。<img src="static/image/smiley/Tiger/03.gif" smilieid="141" border="0" alt="" /></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_655835" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_655835"></div> </div> </dd> </dl> </div> <div id="post_654174" class="xld xlda mbm"><dl class="bbda cl"> <dd class="m avt"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-10207.html"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=10207&size=small" /></a></dd> <dt> <span class="y xw0"> </span> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-10207.html" target="_blank" class="xi2">乏味</a><em id="author_654174"> 发表于</em> <span class="xg1 xw0">2010-6-30 23:41:37</span> </dt> <dd class="z"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_654174"> 中国人有乐phone，呵呵。</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_654174" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_654174"></div> </div> </dd> </dl> </div> <div id="post_654088" class="xld xlda mbm"><dl class="bbda cl"> <dd class="m avt"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-84642.html"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=84642&size=small" /></a></dd> <dt> <span class="y xw0"> </span> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-84642.html" target="_blank" class="xi2">qdhank</a><em id="author_654088"> 发表于</em> <span class="xg1 xw0">2010-6-30 17:20:35</span> </dt> <dd class="z"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_654088"> 为什么中国人造不出iphone?</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_654088" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_654088"></div> </div> </dd> </dl> </div> <div id="post_654078" class="xld xlda mbm"><dl class="bbda cl"> <dd class="m avt"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-10207.html"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=10207&size=small" /></a></dd> <dt> <span class="y xw0"> </span> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-10207.html" target="_blank" class="xi2">乏味</a><em id="author_654078"> 发表于</em> <span class="xg1 xw0">2010-6-30 16:06:27</span> </dt> <dd class="z"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" 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