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今天是个好日子，早上起床，天气不冷不热。《中国国际（杭州）光学光电子博览会》9点开馆，但我在8点半已到展览馆外，展览馆外有小山，风景秀丽，树木长得很密，空气新鲜，这几十分钟正好用来散步。 在会上有一种光谱仪，可以显示光谱曲线和特性参数值，即用笔记本计算机显示光谱曲线或用数字显示。 我与工作人员谈到我这次在《中国光学会2004年学术大会》上宣读的论文及演示的实验，光源旋转效应实验，用的测量仪器是照度计。 她同意我用展出的光谱仪对光源旋转效应的实验测试。 我立即回到住地，将实验设备拿到展览馆。</P> <P>实验数据在峰值是：</P> <P>光源用绿光</P> <P>透明介质静止 波长 517.45 强度 2552.5</P> <P>透明介质旋转 波长 517.09 强度 2591.5</P> <P>回到住地，收到浙大光电系沈建其博士发来的短信息，问我在什么地点？我立即回信，请他到我的住地，他到后，我将则实验的结果告之，我们共同前往展览馆，看看所用的光谱仪。</P> <P>下午5点，上机回重庆。 由于展览馆厅中还有其它光源的存在，此类实验以后还要做。用单色光做实验。 只要测试仪器有进步就好，开始用的光电池及电流计，第二步用的照度计，现在用光谱仪。</P> <P>在这里，感谢“顶尖国际”的工作人员，给我测试的机会。 作为业余科学爱好者，总会有好心人帮助的。对我来说，这是一个好的机遇。 也对沈建其先生表示谢意，他多次到学术会场对光源旋转效应关注。</P> <P>刘武青，三个效应，<a href="http://cqfyl.nease.net" target="_blank" >http://cqfyl.nease.net</A></P> <P>2004年4月17日草于飞机上，由于专心写，突然飞机颠簸，一杯咖啡全掉了。 </P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_139238" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_139238"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition139238"></tr> <tr> <td 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05:28:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19001&page=1&authorid=10349" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <h2>用光谱仪测量光源旋转效应实验照片</h2> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_139884"> <IMG src="http://cqfyl.nease.net/haa9.JPG" border=0></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_139884" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_139884"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition139884"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=1&tid=19001&repquote=139884&extra=&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=19001&pid=139884&hash=407958c8" 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<em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=14155&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">62</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=14155&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=tamu" id="a_showip_li_143143" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=tamu" id="a_repent_143143" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-14155.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=14155&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=19001&pid=143143" id="postnum143143" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>4</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon143143" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton143143">发表于 2004-4-30 19:40:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19001&page=1&authorid=14155" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_143143"> <P>什么也没有看到啊。</P><P>说具体些。</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_143143" class="cm"> </div> <div 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class="pls favatar"> <div class="pi"> <div class="authi"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-13039.html" target="_blank" class="xw1" style="color: #33CC00">政策外</a> </div> </div> <div class="p_pop blk bui card_gender_" id="userinfo143818" style="display: none; margin-top: -11px;"> <div class="m z"> <div id="userinfo143818_ma"></div> </div> <div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-13039.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #33CC00">政策外</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=13039&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">186</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=13039&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=%D5%FE%B2%DF%CD%E2" id="a_showip_li_143818" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=%D5%FE%B2%DF%CD%E2" id="a_repent_143818" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-13039.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=13039&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=19001&pid=143818" id="postnum143818" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>5</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon143818" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton143818">发表于 2004-4-29 18:19:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19001&page=1&authorid=13039" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_143818"> 搞研究是乐趣无穷的</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_143818" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_143818"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition143818"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=1&tid=19001&repquote=143818&extra=&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=19001&pid=143818&hash=407958c8" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_143818').innerHTML ? $('review_support_143818').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_143818"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=19001&pid=143818&hash=407958c8" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_against_143818').innerHTML ? $('review_against_143818').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 反对'">反对 <span id="review_against_143818"></span></a> </em> <p> <a href="javascript:;" id="mgc_post_143818" onmouseover="showMenu(this.id)" class="showmenu">使用道具</a> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="showWindow('miscreport143818', 'misc.php?mod=report&rtype=post&rid=143818&tid=19001&fid=1', 'get', -1);return false;">举报</a> </p> <ul id="mgc_post_143818_menu" class="p_pop mgcmn" style="display: none;"> <li><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=namepost&idtype=pid&id=143818:19001" id="a_namepost_143818" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static/image/magic/namepost.small.gif" />显身卡</a><li> </ul> <script type="text/javascript" reload="1">checkmgcmn('post_143818')</script> </div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="ad"> <td class="pls"> </td> <td class="plc"> </td> </tr> </table> </div><div class="postaaa posta5" id="post_144331" ><table id="pid144331" class="plhin" summary="pid144331" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td class="pls" rowspan="2"> <div id="favatar144331" class="pls favatar"> <div class="pi"> <div class="authi"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-8402.html" target="_blank" class="xw1" style="color: #FF00CC">whzaaaa</a> </div> </div> <div class="p_pop blk bui card_gender_" id="userinfo144331" style="display: none; margin-top: -11px;"> <div class="m z"> <div id="userinfo144331_ma"></div> </div> <div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-8402.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #FF00CC">whzaaaa</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=8402&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">3975</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=8402&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=whzaaaa" id="a_showip_li_144331" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=whzaaaa" id="a_repent_144331" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-8402.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=8402&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=19001&pid=144331" id="postnum144331" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>6</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon144331" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton144331">发表于 2004-5-1 00:51:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19001&page=1&authorid=8402" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_144331"> <P>实验数据在峰值是：</P><P>光源用绿光</P><P>透明介质静止 波长 517.45 强度 2552.5</P><P>透明介质旋转 波长 517.09 强度 2591.5 实验数据应该有单位。谢谢。</P></td></tr></table> </div> 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</strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon144358" src="static/image/common/ico_lz.png" /> 楼主<span class="pipe">|</span> <em id="authorposton144358">发表于 2004-5-1 03:03:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19001&page=1&authorid=10349" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <h2>可以让透明介质振动进行实验</h2> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_144358"> <P align=left>可以让透明介质振动进行实验<p></p></P> <P align=left>可以让透明介质横向振动、纵向振动、横向与纵向均振动来进行实验。或者，在前面运动的同时，再加上旋转。<p></p></P> <P align=left>光通过运动透明介质，强度、波长会发生变化吗？前人没有做过实验。<p></p></P> <P align=left>因此，要探索。<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>谢谢网友们参与讨论<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>刘武青，三个效应，http://cqfyl.nease.net<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>========================================= <p></p></P> <P align=left> 沈先生，您让刘武青先生给蒙住了…… <p></p></P> <P align=left>作者:马国梁(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 2004/04/30 11:05 字节:422 点击:16次 帖号:45807 <p></p></P> <P align=left>当前论坛: [挑战相对论]讨论区 [hongbin.xilubbs.com] <p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left> 透镜旋转时，照度计和波长测量仪都发生示数变化，根本不是由于旋转的结果。透镜旋转的线速度和光速比起来微不足道，效果与静止的相同。之所以发生上述现象是因为手电钻旋转时，电流增大，电路电压降低，使光源的亮度减小，波长测量仪的测量结果也减小。尽管仪器内有稳压装置，但其工作仍然要受到影响。其变化幅度从百分之几到万分之几完全可能。根本用不着假设折射率发生变化。<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>----------------------------------------<p></p></P> <P align=left> TO XDJXX [jqsphy] 15K 04.30 00:13 21 <p></p></P> <P align=left> 回复: [和满] 325 04.30 12:50 8 <p></p></P> <P align=left> 沈先生，您让刘武青先生给蒙住了…… [马国梁] 422 04.30 11:05 16 <p></p></P> <P align=left> 的确，透镜旋转的线速度和光速比起来微不足道，所以我不是考虑透镜旋转的线速度对透镜折射率的影响（这影响微乎其微）。我是考虑 [jqsphy] 1K 04.30 15:42 3 <p></p></P> <P align=left> 回复:感谢马国良先生 [和满] 186 04.30 12:41 9 <p></p></P> <P align=left> 回复:建其是不知道爱因斯坦的两个光脉冲方向相反，还是不懂矢量运算？ [xdjxx] 43K 04.30 02:07 18 <p></p></P> <P align=left> 我一直没有看清楚干嘛爱氏需要用<FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>大小相等，方向相反的两个光脉冲<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>？？因为这什么动力学效果都无法获得，什么数学演绎都演绎不 [jqsphy] 27K 04.30 15:27 3 <p></p></P> <P align=left> 再论<FONT face="Times New Roman">““</FONT>大小相等，方向相反的两个光脉冲<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT> [jqsphy] 1K 04.30 15:58 3 <p></p></P> <P align=left> JPSPHY没错，马青平 XDJXX有功 [和满] 472 04.30 13:06 14 <p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>=========================================================<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left> 的确，透镜旋转的线速度和光速比起来微不足道，所以我不是考虑透镜旋转的线速度对透镜折射率的影响（这影响微乎其微）。我是考虑 <p></p></P> <P align=left>作者:jqsphy(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 2004/04/30 15:42 字节:1K 点击:3次 帖号:45817 <p></p></P> <P align=left>当前论坛: [挑战相对论]讨论区 [hongbin.xilubbs.com] <p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>透镜旋转时，照度计和波长测量仪都发生示数变化，根本不是由于旋转的结果。透镜旋转的线速度和光速比起来微不足道<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>【【【【的确，透镜旋转的线速度和光速比起来微不足道，所以我不是考虑透镜旋转的线速度对透镜折射率的影响（这影响微乎其微）。我是考虑转子转动所造成的惯性离心力对透镜内部偶极子的定向极化的贡献，这部分贡献也会提供一个折射率变化效应，这是比较大的（数学处理见刘武青替我的这一文章的扫描件）。但是，北大物理系网站上有人对我的这一推导做了批评，他说我在最后估算惯性离心力效应对偶极子极化与折射率的影响的数量级时，我的一些数据（如偶极子质量，偶极子固有频率）等做了人为放大，实际数据比我所采用的数据要小几个数量级。】】】】<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>，效果与静止的相同。之所以发生上述现象是因为手电钻旋转时，电流增大，电路电压降低，使光源的亮度减小，波长测量仪的测量结果也减小。<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>【【【【刘武青用的光源是日光灯光源。我想开启电转转子，这部分电耗是不足于影响整个房间的电路电压的。】】】】】】】】】】】】】】】】】】<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>尽管仪器内有稳压装置，但其工作仍然要受到影响。其变化幅度从百分之几到万分之几完全可能。根本用不着假设折射率发生变化。<p></p></P> <P align=left>================================================== <p></p></P> <P align=left> 回复:感谢马国良先生 <p></p></P> <P align=left>作者:和满(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 2004/04/30 12:41 字节:186 点击:9次 帖号:45810 <p></p></P> <P align=left>当前论坛: [挑战相对论]讨论区 [hongbin.xilubbs.com] <p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P align=left>我原来真没想到，他们要拿手电钻做这种光学实验。<p></p></P> <P align=left> <p></p></P> <P 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class="pipe">|</span> <em id="authorposton144473">发表于 2004-5-1 19:28:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19001&page=1&authorid=10349" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <h2>问题的实质是在光学界诞生了一门新的分支学科</h2> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_144473"> <P> ================================== 北大物理系BBS <a href="http://www.phy.pku.edu.cn/wwwboard/board.php?n=-2" target="_blank" >http://www.phy.pku.edu.cn/wwwboard/board.php?n=-2</A> 【首页】 B BS版规 物 理论坛 物 理争鸣 回 复意见 问题的实质是在光学界诞生了一门新的分支学科---运动光源对光波长的影响</P> <P>Posted by 刘武青1(注:用"刘武青"不能发帖了) (61.186.131.146) on 2004-05-01 10:39:47:</P> <P>In Reply t 这个想法的思路才是对的，我也抛一块砖。 posted by on 2004-05-01 09:53:34:</P> <P> 问题的实质是在光学界诞生了一门新的分支学科---运动光源对光波长的影响 在以往的光学实验中，总要想办法让透镜静止，进行各种光学实验，而光源旋转效应是在光源运动中产生的一种新效应。 书本上没有记载。因此，我们要去探索。 唉，为什么看到探索，就反对呢？ 我一直想不通有些人为什么反对做前人没有做过的实验。 </P> <P>刘武青，三个效应，<a href="http://cqfyl.nease.net" target="_blank" >http://cqfyl.nease.net</A> </P> <P>================================= 【首页】 B BS版规 物 理论坛 物 理争鸣 回 复意见 </P> <P> 这个想法的思路才是对的，我也抛一块砖。 </P> <P>Posted by (218.244.111.106) on 2004-05-01 09:53:34: </P> <P>In Reply t 可以让透明介质振动进行实验 posted by 可以让透明介质振动进行实验 on 2004-04-30 18:10:28: </P> <P>我抛一块砖： 手拿着电钻，想让他读数变大还不容易，手稍微往前凑一点不久大了吗。透镜对不同频率的光折射率不一样，稍微移动一下什么频率读出不来呀。 </P> <P>唉，本来就是一个不可靠的实验，我一直想不通沈建齐干吗非要花功夫解释。 </P> <P>Follow Ups: </P> <P>====================================</P> <P>Follow Ups:</P> <P>=================================== =================================== 【首页】 B BS版规 物 理论坛 物 理争鸣 回 复意见 这种探导的态度才是科学态度</P> <P>Posted by swenty (211.85.188.90) on 2004-04-30 20:26:47:</P> <P>In Reply t 可以让透明介质振动进行实验 posted by 可以让透明介质振动进行实验 on 2004-04-30 18:10:28:</P> <P>有人已经推导出旋转光波会变短,但是变短的量只帕测谱仪无法测到,量太小了,沈建其的解释是错误的,</P> <P>Follow Ups:</P> <P>=================================== </P> <P> </P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_144473" class="cm"> </div> <div 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src="static/image/common/ico_lz.png" /> 楼主<span class="pipe">|</span> <em id="authorposton144500">发表于 2004-5-2 00:15:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19001&page=1&authorid=10349" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_144500"> <P><a href="http://www.phy.pku.edu.cn/wwwboard/message.php?id=20511" target="_blank" >http://www.phy.pku.edu.cn/wwwboard/message.php?id=20511</A> 【首页】 B BS版规 物 理论坛 物 理争鸣 回 复意见 取得数组的实验数据是直接证据，还得有间接证据</P><P>Posted by 刘武青1 (61.186.136.33) on 2004-05-01 13:09:03:</P><P>In Reply t 问题的实质是你做实验的态度极不严谨 posted by on 2004-05-01 11:45:32:</P><P>取得数组的实验数据是直接证据，还得有间接证据 对一项实验，要反复进行，在不同的时间、不同的地点、不同的人均要进行。 当然，还要有间接的实验数据，即不同的方式进行。 1、电钻用过台式。没有前后移动台钻头部。即没有前后移动透镜。 2、光源：激光笔、发光二极管（包括紫光）、民用电筒、室内自然光、等等。 3、测量仪器：光电池接电流表、照度计、光谱仪。 4、透镜用了各种透镜。 5、等等 以上得出了数组数据，连成了数据曲线。 下面的第二个帖子中，网友又给出了间接证据。 这是不同方式进行的实验。 间接证明了光源旋转效应成立。 </P><P>刘武青，三个效应，<a href="http://cqfyl.nease.net" target="_blank" >http://cqfyl.nease.net</A> </P><P>====================================== </P><P>【首页】 B BS版规 物 理论坛 物 理争鸣 回 复意见 </P><P>问题的实质是你做实验的态度极不严谨 </P><P>Posted by (218.244.111.106) on 2004-05-01 11:45:32: </P><P>In Reply t 问题的实质是在光学界诞生了一门新的分支学科---运动光源对光波长的影响 posted by 刘武青1(注:用"刘武青"不能发帖了) on 2004-05-01 10:39:47: </P><P>以你现有的实验更本不能证明旋转镜片有任何效果，因为你没有充分考虑可能观察到的假象。一个好的物理学家绝对不会如此武断的下任何结论，除非种种迹象反复验证同一个事实，而且否定了其他的可能。 </P><P>问题： </P><P>你怎么保证读数的变化不是因为电钻前后移动引起的，不转动镜片，仅仅前后移动电钻会不会引起同样的效果，如果能，那就说明你的实验根本不是镜片旋转的结果，而是电钻位置移动的结果。 </P><P>你怎么保证读数变化不是电压不稳引起的，如果开电钻（不连接镜片的另一个电钻），会不会引起同样的现象。 </P><P>做出一个试验现象并不难，但是证明你看到的不是假相则要看试验者的水平了。 </P><P>Follow Ups: </P><P>================================= 【首页】 B BS版规 物 理论坛 物 理争鸣 回 复意见 </P><P>笑话，我真搞不懂问什么你老分不清“你自己没做过”和“每人做过” </P><P>Posted by (218.244.111.106) on 2004-05-01 11:32:21: </P><P>In Reply t 问题的实质是在光学界诞生了一门新的分支学科---运动光源对光波长的影响 posted by 刘武青1(注:用"刘武青"不能发帖了) on 2004-05-01 10:39:47: </P><P>自己看看， 这是介绍运动媒介（好比于你的旋转透镜，不过比你的系统先进多了）对光的影响，1999年就有人可以用这种方法得到很慢的光速（群速），大约十几米/秒。 <a href="http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~ulf/media.html" target="_blank" >http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~ulf/media.html</A> </P><P>这一个说的是光源运动 <a href="http://www.new-physics.narod.ru/pagesEng/55e.htm" target="_blank" >http://www.new-physics.narod.ru/pagesEng/55e.htm</A> </P><P>Follow Ups: </P><P>================================ </P><P> Follow Ups:</P><P> </P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_144500" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_144500"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition144500"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=1&tid=19001&repquote=144500&extra=&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" 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class="t_f" id="postmessage_144575"> <P> ===================================== <a href="http://www.phy.pku.edu.cn/wwwboard/board.php?n=-2" target="_blank" >http://www.phy.pku.edu.cn/wwwboard/board.php?n=-2</A></P><P>【首页】 B BS版规 物 理论坛 物 理争鸣 回 复意见 </P><P>如果刘武青研究兔子和乌龟谁跑得快</P><P>Posted by (219.145.130.118) on 2004-05-01 12:07:45:</P><P>老刘想“乌龟我能抓得住，这兔子万一跑了我可怎么做实验呢？我得把兔子绑起来” </P><P>于是老刘把兔子五花大绑然后让它和乌龟比赛，随后乌龟赢了。 </P><P>然后老刘得出结论“我挑战了现有理论，我发现兔子没有乌龟快”。</P><P>Follow Ups:</P><P> 不能这样看,他的实验是有意义的,只是现在无人解释 - senpy 2004-05-01 19:58:24 </P><P>======================================== 【首页】 B BS版规 物 理论坛 物 理争鸣 回 复意见 不能这样看,他的实验是有意义的,只是现在无人解释</P><P>Posted by senpy (211.85.188.90) on 2004-05-01 19:58:24:</P><P>In Reply t 如果刘武青研究兔子和乌龟谁跑得快 posted by on 2004-05-01 12:07:45:</P><P>不能这样看,他的实验是有意义的,只是现在无人解释,有另一位刘先生可以解释,他是"民科",不易出山.</P><P>Follow Ups:</P><P>========================================== </P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_144575" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_144575"></div> </div> 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