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class="show">阅读模式</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><style type="text/css">.pcb{margin-right:0}</style><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_250240"> http://www.xdlbj.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?boardid=14&rootid=28119&id=28119&star=<br /> 北京相对论研究联谊会<a href="http://bbs.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">论坛</a><br /> ..::光学问题讨论::..?[返回]<br /> 浏览：刘武青与三轮车夫在对待科研方法上的区别 <br /> 您是本帖的第 60 个阅读者?? <br /> <br /> <br /> * 贴子主题： 刘武青与三轮车夫在对待科研方法上的区别 <br /> <br /> <br /> 刘武青 <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> 刘武青与三轮车夫在对待科研方法上的区别<br /> 刘武青与三轮车夫在对待科研方法上的区别<br /> 三轮车夫是网名，不是在街上见到的用脚踏三轮车的车夫。三轮车夫在互联网上声称经常进行喇曼效应实验，他用玻璃容器装气体进行喇曼效应实验。我们知道，玻璃容器装气体进行喇曼效应实验，是前人做了很多次的实验。在实验过程中，玻璃容器是静止的，由于三轮车夫没有创造性，虽然三轮车夫的实验条件好，用了纳税人大量的金钱，但是，却没有想到换一种方式进行喇曼效应实验，即让玻璃容器运动、旋转进行实验。三轮车夫的思想是僵化的。<br /> 刘武青是业余科研爱好者，用自已的钱，在做实验时，很有创造性，刘武青想到光子能量与光源所在物体的运动状态有联系，当然，著名<a href="http://theory.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">物理</a>学家爱因斯坦却认为光子能量与光源所在物体的运动状态没有联系。（2005年，即今年，是世界物体年，记念爱因斯坦有关论文发表100周年）。<br /> 刘武青没有将爱因斯坦神化，对光子能量与光源所在物体的运动状态的联系进行了大量的实验。结论是光子能量与光源所在物体的运动状态有联系。<br /> 祥见<br /> http://cqfyl.nease.net/pdf/guang.pdf<br /> 刘武青与三轮车夫的讨论，<br /> 祥见<br /> http://www.xdlbj.com/bbs/list.asp?boardid=14<br /> 刘武青、三个效应的发现者、http://cqfyl.nease.net <br /> <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> 发贴时间： 2005-4-27 9:00:02 211.158.*.* <br /> <br /> <br /> ============================================================<br /> <br /> 三轮车夫 <br /> <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> 我已经说过，我不再理会此事。既然刘先生再三写这种和我有关的帖子，那我就说几句。<a href="http://laser.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">激光</a>喇曼光谱实验是每个物理系大学生必做的学生实验，至于“让玻璃容器运动、旋转进行实验”之类的“创造性”的东西，还是留给刘先生做专利吧，我们不和你争。<br /> 我再给刘先生一个实验建议：<br /> 在你的客厅中央放一张圆桌，想办法让它旋转，估计你的电钻可能不行，得需要电机。然后让人把你绑在上面，开始旋转。这时候你是算“运动”呢，还是算“静止”？ 求求你，千万别回答“放桌子的屋子是静止的”。<br /> <br /> [此贴子已经被作者于2005-4-27 12:31:08编辑过]<br /> ----------------------------------------------<br /> 爱因斯坦的<a href="http://theory.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">理论</a>是这个时代的终极理论，容不得篡改与歪曲。 <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> 发贴时间： 2005-4-27 12:31:08 202.108.*.* <br /> <br /> <br /> =========================================================<br /> <br /> 刘武青 <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> 再一次讲:三轮车夫在进行实验过程中,玻璃容器是静止的.<br /> 刘武青,三个效应的发现者,http://cqfyl.nease.net <br /> <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> 发贴时间： 2005-4-27 14:10:18 211.158.*.* <br /> <br /> <br /> ========================================================<br /> <br /> 三轮车夫 <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> 以下是引用刘武青在2005-4-27 14:10:18的发言：<br /> 再一次讲:三轮车夫在进行实验过程中,玻璃容器是静止的.<br /> 刘武青,三个效应的发现者http://cqfyl.nease.net<br /> <br /> 刘先生你着啥急啊，我从来没有说玻璃容器是运动的，我们不会跟你争“旋转”优先权和专利权的，前面的帖子中我已说了。我们不会愚蠢到用电钻玩什么“旋转”，样品分子自己的转动、平动和振动就足够了。<br /> 前面我提的实验建议，你感觉如何？<br /> <br /> ----------------------------------------------<br /> 爱因斯坦的理论是这个时代的终极理论，容不得篡改与歪曲。 <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> 发贴时间： 2005-4-27 14:48:26 202.108.*.* <br /> <br /> ==============================================================<br /> <br /> <br /> 刘武青 <br /> <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> 三轮车夫怎样实现样品的转动等?<br /> 刘武青,三个效应的发现者http://cqfyl.nease.net<br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> 发贴时间： 2005-4-27 15:56:20 211.158.*.* <br /> <br /> =====================================================<br /> <br /> 三轮车夫 <br /> <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> 一声叹息，自己慢慢琢磨吧！<br /> ----------------------------------------------<br /> 爱因斯坦的理论是这个时代的终极理论，容不得篡改与歪曲。 <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> 发贴时间： 2005-4-27 17:49:22 202.108.*.* <br /> <br /> ===============================================================<br /> <br /> 王为民 <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> 糊涂的实验，糊涂的推论，没人理解。<br /> ----------------------------------------------<br /> 发贴时间： 2005-4-27 23:32:12 222.53.*.* <br /> <br /> ============================================================<br /> <br /> 王为民 <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> 不过，我还是认为刘武青是一个“民间科学家”。<br /> ----------------------------------------------<br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> 发贴时间： 2005-4-27 23:40:08 222.53.*.* <br /> <br /> ============================================================<br /> <br /> <br /> 刘武青 <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> 三轮车夫的思想为什么这样僵化呢?<br /> 让玻璃容器旋转进行实验，你会失去什么呢？<br /> 作为一位认真的科研工作者，对侍实验应该用不同的方式做做，这是一个常识性的事。<br /> 为什么三轮车夫却害怕用多种方式进行实验呢？<br /> 作为我来说，总是千方百计想法进行多种实验、不同方式的实验，困难是有的，但是我要去克服。<br /> 作为专业学者，实验困难是少一点。但是，我认为，三轮车夫的思想已僵化了。<br /> 王为民先生，你的思想不僵化，但是为什么你也反对进行多种方式的实验呢？<br /> 刘武青，三个效应的发现者，http://cqfyl.nease.net <br /> <br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> 发贴时间： 2005-4-28 8:31:51 211.158.*.* <br /> =============================================================</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_250240" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_250240"></div> </div> 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