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你为什么不回答以下问题呢？<p></p></P> 1."光量子能量公式修正为： E=hυ+光源所在物体的速度（线速度）的因素<p></p></P> 光电方程修正为：1/2mv2=〔hυ+光源所在物体的速度（线速度）的因素〕-w"这里面有问题<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 2光源所在物体的速度所对应的能量是以什么方式加进“光子”的能量中去的,如果是以“1/2mv2”加进“光子”的能量中去，那么这里的m是谁？ <p></p></P> <p></p></P> 3所以你的实验从“数学<a href="http://theory.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">物理</a>方法”上很难处理将“光源所在物体的速度（线速度）的因素”添加到公式中去，尽管实验上能容易看到所谓的“效应” <p></p></P> <p></p></P> 4你现在应该知道别人为何不相信你的效应吧，所以你也不能怪别人的<a href="http://theory.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">学术</a>批评<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 5“新的物理现象”不是喊出来的，要通过“物理思想”＋“数学手段”,EINSTEIN除了有“光电效应的物理思想”，还有“光电效应方程”；希望你好好向爱因斯坦学习<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 6真正想搞点研究的人，思想可以跳跃式，但数学方法必须踏实可行<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 7现在人们在分析万有引力的平方反比时，有人就想从平方2旁边再一个“小量”来否定万有引力定律，这种否定就算“否定”了，也没什么。 就象质子，如果质子的寿命不是无限长，而是10的39方秒，你就说物质结构不稳定吗？人就要坍塌了 ,所以物理研究有它的主流方向问题，希望刘先生能明辨 .<p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> -------------------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 11:33:07 202.107.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ==============================================================<p></p></P> N维空间 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ---------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 你不能对闹钟先生说：<p></p></P> “闹钟先生您好：谢谢回帖，我仅能做力所能及的事,发现数个效应就可以了.刘武青,三个效应的发现者”<p></p></P> <p></p></P> -----------------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 11:38:52 202.107.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> =============================================================<p></p></P> <p></p></P> N维空间 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> -----------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 大家无非是希望刘先生你能够给一点严格的推断。<p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> -------------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 11:41:42 202.107.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ================================================================<p></p></P> N维空间 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 否则最后还是会让闹钟先生失望的 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ----------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 11:43:30 202.107.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ==================================================================<p></p></P> <p></p></P> N维空间 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ---------------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 你不是说：《三个效应》科研工作采取的战略——先实验并申请专利，取得专利申请号、公开号，在互联网上及参加各种学术会交流。 即：先占领山头，然后，打扫战场。<p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> 不光要“先占领山头”，更重要的是“打扫战场” ，如果你永远打扫不完，或不懂怎么打扫战场，你该怎么办<p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ------------------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 11:53:19 202.107.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> =========================================================<p></p></P> 刘武青 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> “力所能及”你懂吗?<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 刘武青 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ------------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 12:01:18 211.158.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ============================================================<p></p></P> <p></p></P> N维空间 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ---------------------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> “力所能及”是相对““力所不及”来说的，所以你只能说：我看到了《三个现象》，但不知道是什么原因导致发生了《三个现象》，希望对此有兴趣的专家帮助我。 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> -----------------------------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 12:08:20 202.107.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ==========================================================<p></p></P> <p></p></P> N维空间 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 你为什么只感谢闹钟先生在光学专业BBS上发帖支持你，而不感谢我啊！！！<p></p></P> <p></p></P> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 12:28:07 202.107.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ==============================================================<p></p></P> <p></p></P> N维空间 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 我可是从更深的一个层面支持你噢，只是你可能要到90岁才知道。或许有一天你对发帖不再有那么浓厚兴趣的时候会想到“N维空间”的。 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 12:31:55 202.107.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ====================================================================<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 刘武青 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 占领互联网中的关键词<p></p></P> 当将互联网中必要的关键词占领后，可以考虑少发帖了。<p></p></P> 注：是指在搜寻中输入：刘武青或光子能量或三个效应或刘武青效应等等。<p></p></P> 目前在狗狗等等中可以输入有关关键词，找到刘武青相关的效应很方便。<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 刘武青 三个效应 http://cqfyl.nease.net <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> --------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 13:55:04 211.158.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ========================================================<p></p></P> <p></p></P> xj5107 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 刘武青先生<p></p></P> 您好！<p></p></P> 下面是我关于光子静止质量的研究成果，您 看能否用于支持您 的实验结果<p></p></P> <p></p></P> http://classpic7.chinaren.com/album/pic/806/328/2817034545009328806/111269481721348.gif<p></p></P> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 17:56:04 221.210.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ===================================================================<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 刘久明 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 我对刘武青效应怀疑多于对其作为朋友的支持，但我的确无话可说。<p></p></P> 第一，刘武青效应是否成立，至今没有人从<a href="http://theory.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">理论</a>上给于解释，最初只有沈建其先生反对其实验，但沈建其先生看过实验后积极地提供了实验解释。我认为不管其解释是否合理，最起码其认为应该给出解释。<p></p></P> 第二，刘武青没有给实验做出解释，反对的人应该做出相应的解释以证明刘武青效应不存在才是。<p></p></P> 第三，刘武青效应是否存在，只能由实验说话，反对的人只能做实验，证明刘武青效应纯粹是实验误差。<p></p></P> 第四，历史上已有理论能够解释刘武青效应，并已语言了刘武青效应的存在，则刘武青效应不成立。如果有人执意要求刘武青本人对实验结果做出解释则属于不合理要求，刘武青本人没必要对结果走出解释。如果本人做出解释纯熟个人观点与效应的实质没有任何关系。<p></p></P> 第五，如果有人反对刘武青实验，则只能在以上两个框架内提出反对意见：一、刘武青实验不可信；二，刘武青实验有历史解释。<p></p></P> <p></p></P> ----------------------------------------------<p></p></P> 相对论是一个不简洁的思考方法，很少有人真正做到了“懂”，<p></p></P> 而懂了的人会发现其存在两个小小的问题：<p></p></P> 1、相对论不符合相对性原理；<p></p></P> 2、光相对观测者不变是一个失败的假设。 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ----------------------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-5 18:09:44 221.8.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ==========================================================<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 刘武青 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> -----------<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 谢谢xj5107先生、刘久明先生<p></p></P> 我还要更加努力去做实验。<p></p></P> 对于理论，我是差一点。<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 谢谢<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 刘武青 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> --------------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-6 8:39:14 211.158.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ===========================================================<p></p></P> 刘武青 <p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> 解释<p></p></P> 同一频率的光子最大能量，在爱因斯坦光（量）子能量公式中没有涉及到。<p></p></P> 同一频率的光子，在爱因斯坦光量子E=hυ公式中，不能计算光子的最大能量，式中的h是常数，那么，仅有一个因素，光子的同一频率，υ影响光子的能量，此光子如果从运动的物质中发出，仍用原频率代入公式中，就不是此光子的最大能量了。因为运动物质对光子能量有影响，运动物质的动量愈大，光子能量愈大。<p></p></P> 同一频率的光从静止的物质中发出与运动的物质中发出能量是不相同的。<p></p></P> 爱因斯坦光子能量公式没有讲到光子能量与运动物质能量的联系。<p></p></P> <p></p></P> 刘武青<p></p></P> <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ---------<p></p></P> 发贴时间： 2005-4-6 9:39:18 211.158.*.* <p></p></P> <p></p></P> ===========================================================<p></p></P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_245156" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_245156"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> <div id="p_btn" class="mtw mbm hm cl"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&ac=favorite&type=thread&id=33598&formhash=7efaaf6c" id="k_favorite" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href, 'get', 0);" 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