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<P>光),宁波(舜宇,永新,甬捷以及多个物镜头厂家),桂林(桂光)等,其中东</P><br /> <P>利来在获得江南光的<a href="http://job.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">人才</a>优势后侧重于物镜头等的配件生产,物镜生产</P><br /> <P>能力相对来说也强点,国内不少整机厂家用该厂的配件;行业老大有可能</P><br /> <P>是MOTIC,主要做出口市场,<a href="http://b.oecr.com/sell" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">产品</a>综合档次相对来说高点;江南光在和尼康</P><br /> <P>合资以后,综合实力有比较大幅度增加,它的产品也比较齐全,宁波方面</P><br /> <P>有自由设计人张天安,他好象是以显微镜设计起家的,其它厂家就不多说</P><br /> <P>了,言多必失.<br /> 与东洋的差距主要体现在设计,<a href="http://optics.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">工艺</a>两方面,东洋在设计方面领先国内</P><br /> <P>是没什么争议的,(以我个人为例),一方面他们在设计经验积累方面比我</P><br /> <P>们深厚,一方面他们在用材方面比我们有更大自由度,比如说一年前,我</P><br /> <P>设计时LA系玻璃很少用,因为用LA系<a href="http://material.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">材料</a>会大幅度增加材料费,而东洋人</P><br /> <P>在设计高档物镜时,采用的是高开高走,即成本高,售价也高,这样他们连</P><br /> <P>CAF2都用上了,这对于我来说是不敢奢望的,再比如说,OLYMPUS的SZ12连</P><br /> <P>变的主物镜他们用过一块FK2类材料,该材料国内不生产,到岸价格好象<br /> 3500/KG,这样一片材料成本约为400,国内厂家做的估计不多,因为国内</P><br /> <P>优势是价廉,即使现在我在设计复消色差物镜尽可能不用或少用FK类材</P><br /> <P>料,关键考虑的是镜片的综合成本;在工艺方面,东洋优势同样很明显,听</P><br /> <P>说日本现在有不少自动化生产线,通过该类生产线,生产的产品同一性非</P><br /> <P>常好,这样对与同一产品,在公差方面就有一定优势,当然对于显微镜类</P><br /> <P>的小批量镜片,他们不会用自动线,但在加工控制方面他们拥有的优势是</P><br /> <P>显著的,在显微镜镜片<a href="http://opticalfilm.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">镀膜</a>上,东洋人在设计完以后,会分析色彩还原性,</P><br /> <P>通过在特定几个面镀不同波长透过率不一样的带通膜来平衡色彩还原性</P><br /> <P>,色彩还原性对光学仪器影响很大,(尤其是内窥镜,我以前是做这的,题</P><br /> <P>外话)这一点国内也很少做到,对MOTIC不了解,不知该公司有没有做,抛</P><br /> <P>砖引玉,希望大家多多交流经验,共同提高<br /> 大家对显微镜有需要的,想讨论的,可以联系,曾经为深圳一公司定做用于检验高频滤波器用的专用显微镜,最后祝大家五一有个好心情!</P><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_143854" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_143854"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> <div id="p_btn" class="mtw mbm hm cl"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&ac=favorite&type=thread&id=19666&formhash=e22bb7be" id="k_favorite" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href, 'get', 0);" 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class="pls favatar"> <div class="pi"> <div class="authi"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-2477.html" target="_blank" class="xw1" style="color: #FF00CC">freel</a> </div> </div> <div class="p_pop blk bui card_gender_" id="userinfo148089" style="display: none; margin-top: -11px;"> <div class="m z"> <div id="userinfo148089_ma"></div> </div> <div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-2477.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #FF00CC">freel</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=2477&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">4699</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=2477&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=freel" id="a_showip_li_148089" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, 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id="authorposton148089">发表于 2004-5-11 03:26:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19666&page=1&authorid=2477" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_148089"> <br /> <br /> <P>国内落后东洋的东西多了，光学方面从设计到制造都不是一个量级的。</P><P>觉的主要是国内的制造业不行，只能做一般的东西，高精尖的都不行，没有高精尖机床，整个</P><P>工业能力就可想而知。</P><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_148089" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_148089"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition148089"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=3&tid=19666&repquote=148089&extra=&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" 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</div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-7854.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=7854&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=19666&pid=148176" id="postnum148176" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>4</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon148176" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton148176">发表于 2004-5-11 06:14:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19666&page=1&authorid=7854" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <h2>厦门(MOTIC)来自新光！</h2> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_148176"> <br /> <br /> 厦门(MOTIC)来自新光！他们有些产品说是卖软件，配备显微镜！<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_148176" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_148176"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition148176"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=3&tid=19666&repquote=148176&extra=&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=19666&pid=148176&hash=e22bb7be" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_148176').innerHTML ? $('review_support_148176').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_148176"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=19666&pid=148176&hash=e22bb7be" onclick="showWindow('login', 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</strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon148232" src="static/image/common/ico_lz.png" /> 楼主<span class="pipe">|</span> <em id="authorposton148232">发表于 2004-5-11 16:51:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19666&page=1&authorid=8643" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_148232"> <br /> <br /> 他们的物镜头好象是东利来的,软件好象来自北航,那他们自己主要做什么了?他们量做的挺大,过亿<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_148232" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_148232"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition148232"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" 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rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_150289"> <P>谢谢楼上的介绍，请大家多多交流，下面我贴一个贴</P><P>以数值孔径表示的显微镜在设计无限远物镜时,对孔径的确定通常是定</P><P>入瞳直径或相对孔径,通常是先有NSinU换成U再换成tgU,有时会出现手</P><P>边没有计算器,则很难计算,这时可以通过传函理论值来确定数值孔</P><P>径,MTF=0.63(采样频率为1000NA),比如说40X的数值孔径为0.65,当采样</P><P>频率为650LP/MM时,它的理论传函为0.63.</P><P>上面的回贴只是一个引子,下面要提出的是关于显微镜的消色差,半复消</P><P>色差,复消色差的设计标准(思路).请同行批评提意见,如合适可以提交</P><P>显微镜标准委员会</P><P>长期以来我国在显微镜方面对消色差,半平场,平场方面有国家标准,但</P><P>对消色差,半复消色差,复消色差的设计标准一直没有定量判断依据,只</P><P>是提出消二级光谱,操作性比较差,我根据设计经验(以40X及以上的高倍</P><P>为例),作为高倍低档物镜消色差,设计传函(采样频率为1000NA)在没用</P><P>超低色散材料时,很难超过0.53,中档物镜[半平场,半复消色差,布局在</P><P>原消色差基础上加一片(100X)或不加(40X),不用超低色散材料]时很难</P><P>超0.58,我提出的建议是以0.52和0.57为界限,零视场传函在0.52和0.57 之间为半平场半复消色差,在两端为消色差和平场复消色差,我提的想法</P><P>请大家批评之,丰富之,谢谢!</P><P> 关于显微镜的共轭距有195和无限远两种,而无限远标准则是国家标准为 F物镜*倍率为250,而通常使用的是东利来生产的181,通常情况下它们的设计难度,加工难度差不多,只是厂家炒概念,用户通常可以要求厂家改变辅助物镜,将共轭距改成可变的,这样一来既拥有无限远物镜的功能,又拥有195的低售价,这样的系统我司的XY系列就是应客户需要改成的</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_150289" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_150289"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition150289"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=3&tid=19666&repquote=150289&extra=&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=19666&pid=150289&hash=e22bb7be" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_150289').innerHTML ? $('review_support_150289').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_150289"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" 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ＰＬＡＮ４０／０。９５）。主要是加工。当然产家是要计算成本的。</P><P>至于复消我个人觉得４３５.８也是应该要考虑的（尤其是在工业物镜里）。至于高倍用传函来评价我觉得不太好。我倾向于量集中度。</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_226457" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_226457"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition226457"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=3&tid=19666&repquote=226457&extra=&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=19666&pid=226457&hash=e22bb7be" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_226457').innerHTML ? $('review_support_226457').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_226457"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" 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href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=19666&pid=226663" id="postnum226663" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>10</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon226663" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton226663">发表于 2005-1-15 01:53:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=19666&page=1&authorid=5684" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_226663"> <P>楼主列举的一些公司我到是去过几个，不妨也说说自己的看法：</P> <P>东利来有些显微物镜是由一个鬼子设计的，与这个鬼子接触过几次，</P> <P>没怎么细聊，鬼子的英语太烂，不过觉得他光学设计的概念还是很</P> <P>清晰的。据说他在显微物镜方面设计还是很牛的，从nikon出来的还是</P> <P>有一定实力的。另外东利来的赵总真是一个会生活的人，呵呵，羡慕。</P> <P>舜宇的基础和实力还是很不错的，毕竟在这一行很多年了，有自己的</P> <P>系列产品，光学设计方面的技术人员我没怎么接触过，到底技术研发</P> <P>实力如何就不好说了，不过有一款连续变倍的体视显微镜也是上面那个</P> <P>鬼子设计的，sigh。</P> <P>宁波宇捷，原来叫甬捷，是以中低端显微镜为主的，技术含量很低，主要</P> <P>靠价格便宜，而且主要是用来出口的，虽然没什么技术，可是也赚了不少钱，</P> <P>厂子应该也不算大，300多人吧。</P> <P>至于设计的时候使用caf2，我想如果是复消色差就必须用到吧，设计的时候</P> <P>使用也没什么了不起的。</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_226663" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_226663"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition226663"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=3&tid=19666&repquote=226663&extra=&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=19666&pid=226663&hash=e22bb7be" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_226663').innerHTML ? $('review_support_226663').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span 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