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class="pi"> <div class="authi"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-1093.html" target="_blank" class="xw1" style="color: #FF00CC">carfieldbsd</a> </div> </div> <div class="p_pop blk bui card_gender_" id="userinfo172379" style="display: none; margin-top: -11px;"> <div class="m z"> <div id="userinfo172379_ma"></div> </div> <div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-1093.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #FF00CC">carfieldbsd</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=1093&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">2729</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=1093&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=carfieldbsd" id="a_showip_li_172379" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=carfieldbsd" id="a_repent_172379" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-1093.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=1093&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=172379" id="postnum172379" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>25</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon172379" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton172379">发表于 2004-7-6 20:56:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=1093" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><style type="text/css">.pcb{margin-right:0}</style><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_172379"> <P>我没有注意到有这个20帖的限制，可能是我的帖子已经足够多了。因此就没有受到影响。</P> <P>但总我对于下载资料等的看法是：要不就收钱（真的RMB），要不就免费无限制。对于光学这个技术，不是一天两天就可以达到自己要求；偶尔的抄袭可能能临时起作用。即使能赚点便宜也是暂时的。</P> <P>但有一个问题就是，现在论坛和网站上的资料，是一些人很辛苦得到的。如果不能挣钱，那么能被人充分利用也是好的。对于浮躁的人，即使他们马上得到这些资料，往往也不能有足够的重视。</P> <P>因此我个人觉得，他们copy不copy，下载不下载都问题不大。</P> <P>好曲送知音；我觉得关键是资料用的其所。</P> <P>还有一个问题我觉得到是应该注意。</P> <P>就是我们都是做技术的，吃技术这碗饭的。但近乎疯狂的盗版确实是非常不好的事情。</P> <P>我这里说的“疯狂的盗版”就是所有的东西，都要免费，都要白来。</P> <P>这里我说个例子：</P> <P>用zemax盗版，是很多不得已而为止的，3万一套，没几个中国人能买的起。有的单位呢，本身也没有这个意识。</P> <P>但是，现在很多书都在盗版，找电子版本。我的体会，书还是纸张阅读的舒服，电子版本很费眼睛。</P> <P>但往往是只要有电子版本的东西，大家就绝对不购买实际的书。</P> <P>甚至只要有复印版的东西，就绝对不用原版的书，因为复印版的要便宜。</P> <P>我就一直搞不明白，大家都是干这行的，吃这行饭的，也希望自己的技术被承认而不是被别人白白使用。</P> <P>为什么一用到别人的东西，马上就如此鸡贼？我们真的穷到这个份上，几十块，几百块的书购买不起么？</P> <P>我们的良知不够3万，难道连1000元都不到么？</P> <P>而且还要找各种理由来给自己行为辩护，说自己的不仅不是错，还是大大的有道理，有理想。</P> <P>大的说道是为国家，小的说道是为了光学。可怜哇！！</P> <P>现在不时兴不说大话，但鲁迅说的“中国知识分子的脊梁”呢？都被省下的几百块买包子吃了么？</P> <P>另外，谁可能都有秦琼卖马的时候，但卖马就是卖马，盗版就是盗版，用不着说我是给马自由，或者说我是为国家而盗吧？盗亦有道，做小偷都这么不专业！</P> <P>有感而发，相关的帖子在：</P> <P><a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=18ID=22486page=1" target="_blank" >http://bbs.oecr.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=18ID=22486page=1</A></P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_172379" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_172379"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition172379"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=172379&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=21982&pid=172379&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_172379').innerHTML ? $('review_support_172379').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_172379"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=21982&pid=172379&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_against_172379').innerHTML ? $('review_against_172379').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 反对'">反对 <span id="review_against_172379"></span></a> </em> <p> <a href="javascript:;" id="mgc_post_172379" onmouseover="showMenu(this.id)" class="showmenu">使用道具</a> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="showWindow('miscreport172379', 'misc.php?mod=report&rtype=post&rid=172379&tid=21982&fid=124', 'get', -1);return false;">举报</a> </p> <ul id="mgc_post_172379_menu" 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<div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-16926.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #00FF99">YoungB</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=16926&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">539</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=16926&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=YoungB" id="a_showip_li_172500" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=YoungB" id="a_repent_172500" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-16926.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=16926&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=172500" id="postnum172500" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>26</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon172500" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton172500">发表于 2004-7-7 01:34:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=16926" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_172500"> <P> 20贴好难达到啊! 我只是学光电的低年级学生，<img src="static/image/smiley/default/em06.gif" smilieid="35" border="0" alt="" />!!</P><P> 当然，如果有可以交流的，我一定尽力 ！</P><P> “ 论坛是最占用系统资源和费力维护的，而且是一点赢利都没有的，之所以花费大量时间和精力在这个论坛上而毫无回报，只因为身在这个行业中，不管这个行业如何，它还是养活了很多从业者，所以就想着能够为它做点什么。如果你觉得回复或是自己发布20个帖子很为难的时候，问问你自己，难道你的时间就比别人的更珍贵么？”</P><P> 我不知道！ <b><FONT color=#990000>我坚决支持！</FONT></b> </P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_172500" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_172500"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition172500"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=172500&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=21982&pid=172500&hash=db95c06e" 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<em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=5030&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">4685</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=5030&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=lottie" id="a_showip_li_172501" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=lottie" id="a_repent_172501" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-5030.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=5030&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=172501" id="postnum172501" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>27</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon172501" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton172501">发表于 2004-7-7 01:35:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=5030" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_172501"> <P>并不是所有的资料都是要收费的，如果有人先找到了这方面的资料，分享给大家又何妨。</P><P>对于盗版这个问题，我想<FONT color=#000000>carfieldbsd也想得单纯化了。我承认你的出法点是好的，但是有点不现实。想想看，如果我们所用的软件都是正版的，OS，office再加上所有的软件，得要多少钱，有多少人用得起呢。可以说没有盗版，就没有产业的今天。</FONT></P><P>我这样说并非支持用盗版，我的态度是不支持也不反对，只要不把这个论坛当作传播工具就行了，私下交流自便。</P><P>但对于网上自由交流知识资料，在不影响公司秘密的情况下，还是很支持的。</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_172501" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_172501"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition172501"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=172501&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=21982&pid=172501&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_172501').innerHTML ? $('review_support_172501').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span 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class="xi2">2034</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=11247&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=%C7%F2%C7%F2" id="a_showip_li_172756" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=%C7%F2%C7%F2" id="a_repent_172756" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-11247.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=11247&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=172756" id="postnum172756" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>28</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon172756" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton172756">发表于 2004-7-7 21:04:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=11247" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_172756"> <P>乏味，你的邮箱是什么，我把地址给你发过去。</P><img src="static/image/smiley/default/em01.gif" smilieid="30" border="0" alt="" /></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_172756" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_172756"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc 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class="authi"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17001.html" target="_blank" class="xw1" style="color: #FFCCCC">sexy</a> </div> </div> <div class="p_pop blk bui card_gender_" id="userinfo173256" style="display: none; margin-top: -11px;"> <div class="m z"> <div id="userinfo173256_ma"></div> </div> <div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17001.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #FFCCCC">sexy</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17001&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">598</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17001&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=sexy" id="a_showip_li_173256" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=sexy" id="a_repent_173256" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17001.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=17001&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=173256" id="postnum173256" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>29</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon173256" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton173256">发表于 2004-7-9 02:04:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=17001" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_173256"> <img src="http://bbs.oecr.com/Skins/Default/topicface/face12.gif"> <B></B> 光学论坛比不上那些软件和硬件论坛，哪里的人那个多阿！！</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_173256" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_173256"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition173256"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=173256&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" 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href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-10677.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #FF6600">小马过河</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=10677&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">7741</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=10677&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=%D0%A1%C2%ED%B9%FD%BA%D3" id="a_showip_li_173268" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=%D0%A1%C2%ED%B9%FD%BA%D3" id="a_repent_173268" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-10677.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=10677&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=173268" id="postnum173268" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>30</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon173268" src="static/image/common/online_supermod.gif" /> <em id="authorposton173268">发表于 2004-7-9 02:22:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=10677" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_173268"> <P>软件和硬件论坛，里面大多数人不自己做软件和硬件</P><P>光学论坛的网友通常自己要做光学设计/系统</P><P>这是一个很大的不同 专业vs业余</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_173268" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_173268"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition173268"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=173268&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=21982&pid=173268&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_173268').innerHTML ? $('review_support_173268').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_173268"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" 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class="pls"> </td> <td class="plc"> </td> </tr> </table> </div><div class="postaaa posta6" id="post_173606" ><table id="pid173606" class="plhin" summary="pid173606" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td class="pls" rowspan="2"> <div id="favatar173606" class="pls favatar"> <div class="pi"> <div class="authi"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-16971.html" target="_blank" class="xw1" style="color: #FF99FF">zjlxr</a> </div> </div> <div class="p_pop blk bui card_gender_" id="userinfo173606" style="display: none; margin-top: -11px;"> <div class="m z"> <div id="userinfo173606_ma"></div> </div> <div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-16971.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #FF99FF">zjlxr</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=16971&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">1152</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=16971&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=zjlxr" id="a_showip_li_173606" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=zjlxr" id="a_repent_173606" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-16971.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=16971&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=173606" id="postnum173606" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>31</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon173606" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton173606">发表于 2004-7-10 04:48:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=16971" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_173606"> <P>老实说，我是一个初学者，我一直是搞机械的。现在与光学搭上了边，工作需要，我努力学习它，很多都不懂。不敢随便发表意见（外行能给专家支招吗？）。</P><P>到了这，只能看看，下些资料，为学习贮备粮草。</P><P>这里有些朋友的帖有点门槛，不得而为之，大家都是搞技术的，谁愿这样！</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_173606" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_173606"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition173606"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=173606&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=21982&pid=173606&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_173606').innerHTML ? $('review_support_173606').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_173606"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=21982&pid=173606&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_against_173606').innerHTML ? $('review_against_173606').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 反对'">反对 <span id="review_against_173606"></span></a> </em> <p> <a href="javascript:;" id="mgc_post_173606" onmouseover="showMenu(this.id)" class="showmenu">使用道具</a> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="showWindow('miscreport173606', 'misc.php?mod=report&rtype=post&rid=173606&tid=21982&fid=124', 'get', -1);return false;">举报</a> </p> <ul id="mgc_post_173606_menu" class="p_pop mgcmn" style="display: none;"> <li><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=namepost&idtype=pid&id=173606:21982" id="a_namepost_173606" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static/image/magic/namepost.small.gif" />显身卡</a><li> </ul> <script type="text/javascript" reload="1">checkmgcmn('post_173606')</script> </div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="ad"> <td class="pls"> </td> <td class="plc"> </td> </tr> </table> </div><div class="postaaa posta7" id="post_173765" ><table id="pid173765" class="plhin" summary="pid173765" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td class="pls" rowspan="2"> <div id="favatar173765" class="pls favatar"> <div class="pi"> <div class="authi"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17070.html" target="_blank" class="xw1" style="color: #FFCCCC">seeker98</a> </div> </div> <div class="p_pop blk bui card_gender_" id="userinfo173765" style="display: none; margin-top: -11px;"> <div class="m z"> <div id="userinfo173765_ma"></div> </div> <div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17070.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #FFCCCC">seeker98</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17070&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">588</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17070&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=seeker98" id="a_showip_li_173765" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=seeker98" id="a_repent_173765" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17070.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=17070&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=173765" id="postnum173765" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>32</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon173765" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton173765">发表于 2004-7-11 01:11:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=17070" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_173765"> <P>對新手而言，這裡算是不錯的網站，資料很多！</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_173765" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_173765"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition173765"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=173765&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=21982&pid=173765&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_173765').innerHTML ? $('review_support_173765').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_173765"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=21982&pid=173765&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_against_173765').innerHTML ? $('review_against_173765').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 反对'">反对 <span id="review_against_173765"></span></a> </em> <p> <a href="javascript:;" id="mgc_post_173765" onmouseover="showMenu(this.id)" class="showmenu">使用道具</a> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="showWindow('miscreport173765', 'misc.php?mod=report&rtype=post&rid=173765&tid=21982&fid=124', 'get', -1);return false;">举报</a> </p> <ul id="mgc_post_173765_menu" class="p_pop mgcmn" style="display: none;"> <li><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=namepost&idtype=pid&id=173765:21982" id="a_namepost_173765" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static/image/magic/namepost.small.gif" />显身卡</a><li> </ul> <script type="text/javascript" reload="1">checkmgcmn('post_173765')</script> </div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="ad"> <td class="pls"> </td> <td class="plc"> </td> </tr> </table> </div><div class="postaaa posta8" id="post_173830" ><table id="pid173830" class="plhin" summary="pid173830" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td class="pls" rowspan="2"> <div id="favatar173830" class="pls favatar"> <div class="pi"> <div class="authi"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17077.html" target="_blank" class="xw1" style="color: #00FF99">hustckcp</a> </div> </div> <div class="p_pop blk bui card_gender_" id="userinfo173830" style="display: none; margin-top: -11px;"> <div class="m z"> <div id="userinfo173830_ma"></div> </div> <div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17077.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #00FF99">hustckcp</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17077&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">539</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17077&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=hustckcp" id="a_showip_li_173830" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=hustckcp" id="a_repent_173830" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17077.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=17077&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=173830" id="postnum173830" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>33</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon173830" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton173830">发表于 2004-7-11 06:09:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=17077" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_173830"> <P>我真的好希望能在这里学习到很多我们现在书本上没有的知识</P><P>能不能说点有用的?</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_173830" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_173830"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition173830"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=173830&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=21982&pid=173830&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_173830').innerHTML ? $('review_support_173830').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_173830"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=21982&pid=173830&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_against_173830').innerHTML ? $('review_against_173830').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 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id="favatar174431" class="pls favatar"> <div class="pi"> <div class="authi"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17096.html" target="_blank" class="xw1" style="color: #FF99FF">dogear</a> </div> </div> <div class="p_pop blk bui card_gender_" id="userinfo174431" style="display: none; margin-top: -11px;"> <div class="m z"> <div id="userinfo174431_ma"></div> </div> <div class="i y"> <div> <strong><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17096.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #FF99FF">dogear</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17096&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">1000</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17096&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=dogear" id="a_showip_li_174431" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=dogear" id="a_repent_174431" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17096.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=17096&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=21982&pid=174431" id="postnum174431" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>34</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon174431" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton174431">发表于 2004-7-13 04:52:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21982&page=3&authorid=17096" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_174431"> <P>支持</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_174431" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_174431"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition174431"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=174431&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=21982&pid=174431&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_174431').innerHTML ? $('review_support_174431').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_174431"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=21982&pid=174431&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_against_174431').innerHTML ? $('review_against_174431').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 反对'">反对 <span id="review_against_174431"></span></a> </em> <p> <a href="javascript:;" id="mgc_post_174431" onmouseover="showMenu(this.id)" class="showmenu">使用道具</a> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="showWindow('miscreport174431', 'misc.php?mod=report&rtype=post&rid=174431&tid=21982&fid=124', 'get', -1);return false;">举报</a> </p> <ul id="mgc_post_174431_menu" class="p_pop mgcmn" style="display: none;"> <li><a 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href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-17096.html" target="_blank" class="xi2" style="color: #FF99FF">dogear</a></strong> <em>当前离线</em> </div><dl class="cl"> <dt>积分</dt><dd><a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17096&do=profile" target="_blank" class="xi2">1000</a></dd> </dl><div class="imicn"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=17096&do=profile" target="_blank" title="查看详细资料"><img src="static/image/common/userinfo.gif" alt="查看详细资料" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=showip&idtype=user&id=dogear" id="a_showip_li_174434" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=dogear" id="a_repent_174434" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span 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id="postmessage_174434"> 不过这个论坛好东西少啊</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_174434" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_174434"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition174434"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=124&tid=21982&repquote=174434&extra=page%3D14&page=3" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=21982&pid=174434&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_174434').innerHTML ? $('review_support_174434').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_174434"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=21982&pid=174434&hash=db95c06e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" 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