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class="pct"><style type="text/css">.pcb{margin-right:0}</style><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_1105312"> <i class="pstatus"> 本帖最后由 小鸟儿 于 2013-11-23 13:28 编辑 </i><br /> <br /> 清华大学，华科，锐科，西光所，中电他们把500W连续的价格定在35W一年内不降价试试，他技术也牛啊，花了那么大人力财力一起搞，那技术肯定堪比IPG。<br /> <br /> <br /> 这话你也说的出来，这帮人的水平在国内算得上是比较高，但真的和IPG去比，简直差的太远了，还“肯定堪比IPG”？？？！！！真是笑话！你知道现在IPG的最高功率神马水平就敢说“堪比”，你不知道，我告诉你：现在IPG的产品，单模光纤激光器连续输出最高功率20kW，多模光纤激光器最高输出功率50kW，神马叫“堪比”？你好好反省一下吧，至于瑞科也好，清华也罢，有哪个敢站出来说“我们达到了国际水平”？都是你们这帮无知主观臆断再加忽悠，不过，做不过人家是必然的，学学AQ自我娱乐一下还是可以的。<br /> 抛开大功率光纤激光器不说，我个人觉得连像样的1kW光纤激光都不全是自己的核心技术以及核心器件，所以也不谈，咱们就谈谈这低功率的主要占据打标市场的光纤激光器，拿着纳税人的钱去砸机器，砸了多少靠谱的东西出来，做出来的打标机性能又如何，倒是挣了点光，把IPG的打标机市场在中国的价格以及份额消弱了，打标机能有多大市场？在中国，就因为技术做不过人家，才比价格，中国人的心理贪便宜，贪性价比，拼价格这种手段在一定程度上也得到了迎合，所以才会是今天这般模样，不然你们以为怎样？和人家拼技术？屁！核心技术都没有核心器件也没有？你拿命拼啊!,面包会有的，牛奶也会有的，但不是现在，国人们都在努力，还是应了那句话：革命尚未成功，同志仍需努力，然而，IPG却已经成功了，这就是差距！<br /> 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href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&pid=1105312&ptid=261206" target="_blank"><img id="aimg_ke7vM" onclick="zoom(this, this.src, 0, 0, 0)" class="zoom" file="static/image/common/back.gif" onmouseover="img_onmouseoverfunc(this)" lazyloadthumb="1" border="0" alt="" /></a></font><br /> 清华大学，华科，锐科，西光所，中电他们把500W连续的价格定在35W一年内不降价试试，他技术也牛啊，花了那么 ...</blockquote></div><br /> 小鸟看问题还是该眼光更开阔一些，从整个固体激光技术发展来看，从激光加工应用市场来看，从全部制造技术来看。<br /> <br /> 2013年的激光市场年度报告快出来了，看看到底世界上用了哪些激光，不要看美好的未来，我们至今的研究就是吃亏在美好未来。<br /> <br /> 做一个市场研究，国内到底用了哪些激光七在制造和测量上，不要看科研。再看看多少是国内的、多少是进口的激光器，当这个清楚以后，你在看是否该在光纤激光这个圈里蹦达。</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_1105531" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_1105531"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition1105531"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" 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<em id="authorposton1105533">发表于 2013-11-26 10:27:44</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=261206&page=2&authorid=131215" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_1105533"> <div class="quote"><blockquote><font size="2"><font color="#999999">optro 发表于 2013-11-26 10:21</font> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&pid=1105531&ptid=261206" target="_blank"><img id="aimg_PbfKF" onclick="zoom(this, this.src, 0, 0, 0)" class="zoom" file="static/image/common/back.gif" onmouseover="img_onmouseoverfunc(this)" lazyloadthumb="1" border="0" alt="" /></a></font><br /> 小鸟看问题还是该眼光更开阔一些，从整个固体激光技术发展来看，从激光加工应用市场来看，从全部制造技术 ...</blockquote></div><br /> 看 optro这语气，似乎不再和IPG较劲了，嘎嘎，妥协了么？</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_1105533" class="cm"> <h3 class="psth xs1"><span class="icon_ring 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cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_1105543"> <div class="quote"><blockquote><font size="2"><font color="#999999">小鸟儿 发表于 2013-11-26 10:27</font> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&pid=1105533&ptid=261206" target="_blank"><img id="aimg_OyDgy" onclick="zoom(this, this.src, 0, 0, 0)" class="zoom" file="static/image/common/back.gif" onmouseover="img_onmouseoverfunc(this)" lazyloadthumb="1" border="0" alt="" /></a></font><br /> 看 optro这语气，似乎不再和IPG较劲了，嘎嘎，妥协了么？</blockquote></div><br /> <br /> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_1105543" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_1105543"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition1105543"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=7&tid=261206&repquote=1105543&extra=page%3D1&page=2" 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在过几年，IPG也会很难过，在中国市场！我们公司今年已经维修一些IPG的光纤激光器，我们遇到的问题他们都有，只是比例少点，出故障的时间比较晚一点而已，没有宣传的那么神！！！使用一年以上你就会真真切切感受到什么是IPG！！！不过毫无疑问现在IPG是光纤激光器领域的全球霸主，将来10年还是，在往后就不知道了！！！</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_1105562" class="cm"> <h3 class="psth xs1"><span class="icon_ring vm"></span>点评</h3> <div class="pstl xs1 cl"> <div class="psta vm"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-90507.html" c="1"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=90507&size=small" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-90507.html" class="xi2 xw1">optro</a> </div> <div class="psti"> 小鸟，CARYLASER在说实话，但是CARYLASER仍然还抱这MOPA光着屁股讲话，哈哈哈。 CARYLASER <span class="xg1"> 发表于 2013-11-26 16:13</span> </div> </div> <div class="pstl xs1 cl"> <div class="psta vm"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-131215.html" c="1"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=131215&size=small" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-131215.html" class="xi2 xw1">小鸟儿</a> </div> <div class="psti"> 这话说的，神马叫“我们遇到的问题他们都有，只是比例少点，出故障的时间比较晚一点而已”，整个一门外汉说醉话！ <span class="xg1"> 发表于 2013-11-26 15:48</span> </div> </div> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_1105562"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition1105562"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=7&tid=261206&repquote=1105562&extra=page%3D1&page=2" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=261206&pid=1105562&hash=3c82624e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_1105562').innerHTML ? $('review_support_1105562').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_1105562"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=261206&pid=1105562&hash=3c82624e" 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class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=261206&pid=1105586" id="postnum1105586" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>23</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon1105586" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton1105586">发表于 2013-11-26 22:44:28</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=261206&page=2&authorid=10876" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_1105586"> 我感觉大家说得都有道理，就是角度不同，出发点不太一样而已。<br /> <br /> 国产光纤激光器和国外的品牌竞争，现在已经渐入佳境。中低功率的脉冲光纤激光器，用于打标的ns级产品，实际上已经对IPG和SPI等构成了挑战，市场分割已经成为定局。<br /> 百瓦至千瓦量级的所谓的“单模”光纤激光器，国内的生产商还处于解决可靠性的阶段，假以时日，问题自然会得到解决，市场份额也会逐步提升，目前的状态应该是市场摆在那里，能不能拿要看自己的本事。<br /> <br /> 简单来说，谁解决了可靠性的问题，谁解决了性价比的问题，谁就是赢家，在光纤激光器的市场上处于有利的地位。<br /> <br /> 要解决光纤激光器的可靠性的问题，需要按照Optro先生的思路，从理论入手真正了解各个器件，光纤，泵浦的内在机理和技术，从根本上理解熔接，输出，机械，热处理等各方面的问题，进而解决工艺问题，这是唯一正确的道路。</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_1105586" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_1105586"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition1105586"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=7&tid=261206&repquote=1105586&extra=page%3D1&page=2" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=261206&pid=1105586&hash=3c82624e" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_1105586').innerHTML ? $('review_support_1105586').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_1105586"></span></a> <a 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