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<P>第一,你的＜光源旋转效应--用光谱仪测量确认光的波长变化＞中参考文献怎么全是自己的文章,很让人疑惑啊,难道你的东西都是前无古人吗?如果你想反驳,ok,请问你在３楼列的那些书目是怎么回事，是修改那些书中的某些理论吗？还是引用了什么内容？第二，phey和你的讨论我都参考了一些，你的科学精神很让我敬佩，但你的科学谨慎态度实在不能恭维．一个简单的实验能说明什么？你看到的都是表面的数学推导，你做过详细的分析吗？为什么通篇论文里，甚至包括你的其他文章中我都看不到一个数学表达，让我质疑数学基础都没有的物理是不是太可怕了．如果你说这只是实验的结果，那我为你感到惋惜，你的想法或许是不错或者是前人真没发现过的，可惜你的数学不过关，没能用数学建立一个可靠的物理模型，我们怎么从定量上检测你的实验？第三，你的实验条件实在太单一，这不能怪你，光学实验要求非常之高，价格不是个人能承担的．我觉得你应该从实验结构是否存在错误中去寻找．我看你的实验平台，就很为你担心啊．平台上是不能放笔记本电脑的，且你的实验平台是不是倾斜啦，４个角都要安装液压控制门的．实验物品也不要单一，固体，液体，气体都可以尝试，这样说服力不是更多吗？做喇曼光谱实验（用的是北大青鸟的一套机器，很容易坏）时，液体和固体的我都做过，当时没想过旋转．我想在自己的学校按你的方法做一次，看结果是否如你所说还是别的什么结果．大家都别急于下结论，ok？请你把你做的＂旋转观测物的喇曼光谱＂实验说明发到我信箱<a href="mailto:segafy@yahoo.com.cn" target="_blank" >segafy@yahoo.com.cn</A>,我收到后会尽快回复你结果的．本人姓李，男士，谢谢！</P> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_301137" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_301137"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition301137"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" 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id="postmessage_301265"> <P>你的新发现不能参加专业学术会。</P> <P>评委们要将你的新发现删除。</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_301265" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_301265"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition301265"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=1&tid=31012&repquote=301265&extra=page%3D12&page=12" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=31012&pid=301265&hash=15c40ecb" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_301265').innerHTML ? $('review_support_301265').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_301265"></span></a> <a class="replysubtract" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=against&tid=31012&pid=301265&hash=15c40ecb" 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</strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon301307" src="static/image/common/ico_lz.png" /> 楼主<span class="pipe">|</span> <em id="authorposton301307">发表于 2006-3-31 19:42:00</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=31012&page=12&authorid=13960" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_301307"> <P>你去凑个数也算是开会啊？谁会有心思跟你讨论呢，你参加那些会议，除了跟别人照几张像以外，还有什么可说的呢？你的“新发现”只能被你自己收藏吧，或者充当一些审查不严格、档次不高期刊的边角料。</P> <P><BR>另外你怎么就知道要是发现电阻的阻值不稳定的话，就不能参加学术会议呢？用你的逻辑来判断，电学的基础不是就此动摇了吗，所有电路不就都错了嘛？多伟大啊！</P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_301307" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_301307"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition301307"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" 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这项有关光子质量的实验是由中国武汉华中科技大学教授罗俊及其同事共同完成的。在国家自然科学基金的支持下，他们进行的“用精密扭秤检验光子静止质量的上限”的研究，通过实验在宇宙磁势造成的影响中寻找光子质量的痕迹，前者是由星系以及星系团的磁场产生的。如果光子具有质量，这种宇宙势将与一组仪器产生的磁场相互影响，这组仪器将通电金属丝缠绕在一个悬浮的铁环上，并且缠绕的金属丝的扭矩非常小。由于宇宙势的方位是未知的，因此不论它来自哪个方向，研究人员只需将仪器旋转就能确保他们可以接收到信号。为了减少周围环境的磁干扰，研究人员在一个山洞中进行了这项实验。实验的结果是零，在这组仪器上，他们未能探测到任何扭矩的变化。根据他们这项实验的灵敏度推断，光子的质量必定小于10-48千克，或者说是一个电子质量的1/1024。<BR> <BR> 美国麦迪逊威斯康星大学的物理学家Rod Lakes指出，大部分物理学者都不指望能够产生其它的结果。他在5年前进行过类似的、灵敏度较低的实验。但是这一有关光子质量的基本结果仍然不断激励他们去从事如此艰难的实验。他说：“你决不能肯定地说什么东西绝对就是零。那一点却可以跟极限靠得很近”。罗俊就表示，研究小组下一步打算把实验的灵敏度推向一个新的高度。 <BR> <BR> 来源：《科学时报》 <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>版权所有：科学技术部基础研究司 <BR>©Department of Basic Research,Ministry of Science and Technology <BR> <BR> </P></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_301337" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_301337"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition301337"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a 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