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但光-就不是开玩笑了！它不是量子所述的粒子，也不是书上传统形式的波，它是原子能级转换所辅射出的场能，哈！我称它为光旋子，形象有点像粒子，但它可不是像艾因所认为那样有质量，自个跳着舞往前冲的傻小子，哈！除非它去找美女(开句玩笑)，它没有质量，它含有场能，它自身不前进，但它是靠自身感应的将能量传递向前的，所以非常的快！被艾因认为是不可超越的最高速度！还未明奇妙的被艾因抓去推导出什么相对论、质能公式！由于它感应传递是靠它自身环形场通量的变化所为，场通量变化率就是该光旋子的频率，倒数可就是通常所述的波长，也就是说光旋子外径尺寸，所以也正如</STRONG>lionel_zju所说一不小心被<FONT color=#000000>中科大抓个正着，要多抓几个当然就更容易了，不奇怪啊！</FONT><STRONG>千万别认为单个光就无法形成波，那只有艾因的光粒子才不可能！哈！</STRONG></FONT><BR></P> <P>就<FONT face=Verdana color=#61b713><STRONG>phey所提</STRONG></FONT>就用单缝双缝？你度量的结果是什么啊？你知不知道透射电镜还能用x射线观测到亚原子尺度啊？比起你的单缝双缝不知道小了多少倍啊。拿着无知当有趣。今有事明日抽空再回！哈！</P><img src="static/image/smiley/default/em05.gif" smilieid="34" border="0" alt="" /></td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_303292" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_303292"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition303292"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" 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color=#61b713>但光-就不是开玩笑了！它不是量子所述的粒子，也不是书上传统形式的波，它是原子能级转换所辅射出的场能</FONT>”你讲一点点科学的依据好不好，不是你认为怎样就怎样的。</P> <P>另外你也不用开太多的玩笑，只要告诉大家你的“理论”是怎么来的就行了，或者告诉大家你曾经看过的任何一本光学专业书籍的名称，告诉大家，哪个地方错了，拜托你稍微正经一点，好不好？</P> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_303296" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_303296"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition303296"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=1&tid=38991&repquote=303296&extra=page%3D1&page=11" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=38991&pid=303296&hash=6a619a10" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_303296').innerHTML ? $('review_support_303296').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span id="review_support_303296"></span></a> <a 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不理解你说话的意思，刘先生的效应我大概知道是怎么回事，不然我也提不出相应的疑问，但并没有否定的意思，因为很久不看理论，量子光学等忘完了，理论推导也完不成其实应该是想推也推不出，所以无从否定。只是从实验的角度纠正或提醒他重新考虑现在的实验结果，现在他好像还没有对我的一些疑问给出回答，可能还在考虑吧。我个人也并没有划定专科和民科，搞光学的都一样，但是不想别人动不动就想否定爱因斯坦，动不动就说自己发现了什么效应，动不动就说光学专业的人事怎样无能。。。。做学术这么浮躁就不要做，让人贻笑大方，没有学术态度。我不想说你是科民，因为我想科民也是要有科研精神的，我觉得你的光学基础知识还有点让人怀疑。我想对于一个学科现有理论基础不是很清楚很透彻的人，是没有资格撼动整个理论的。你要推翻爱因斯坦的理论，那么你对他的理论又理解多少，你不理解你怎么推翻，你要推翻的是什么？恐怕是你自己的窥豹一斑。</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_303522" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_303522"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition303522"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=1&tid=38991&repquote=303522&extra=page%3D1&page=11" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=38991&pid=303522&hash=6a619a10" 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