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"电容器是储能元件，有充电前后两种状态。""电场是可以屏蔽""从逻辑上分析，称量的结果重量或者质量分别仅有三种可能。一、不变。二、增加。三、减小。""也没有核裂变和核聚变现象产生。""伽俐略也是一个充满着逻辑力量的伟人。自亚里思多德以来，一直延续近两千年，人们都认为自由落体与重量有关，较重的物体会较快落地。伽俐略想：如果把一个较重的物体与一个较轻的物体绑在一起，情况会怎样呢？由于总重量更重，应该下落得比那个较重物体单独下落时更快；可是，由于较轻的物体下落较慢，它因此会拖累较重的物体，使得捆绑后一起下落的速度，要比较重物体单独下落时更慢。伽俐略凭借逻辑的力量，就一举推翻了亚里思多德的落体理论。"<br /> <br /> 以上这些还真是谢谢你告诉我们了,领我恍然开悟,茅厕顿开啊,不是你告诉我们,我们还真是不知道啊.<br /> <br /> "屏蔽电容器是可行的",什么叫屏蔽,相对谁来说屏蔽?<br /> "在屏蔽盒内，存在电场力、万有引力这两种力。"只有这2种力存在吗?去看看初中物理吧,人家是处于平衡静止状态,至少得有些力来平衡啊,和万有引力平衡的是什么力啊?您知道吗?啥叫电场力啊?我不明白诶.不是您被高压电电到了以后令您浑身发抖的那个力啊?那个力很强哦.<br /> "电容器充电前后，电容器的原子、分子、电子的数量没有改变",这些都没改变,那请问是怎么充放电的啊?<br /> ""称量被屏蔽的电容器充电前后"实验给现有的物理理论带来了矛盾。"您能告诉我,是哪条和哪条象矛盾好吗?具体一点.<br /> "至于著名的比萨斜塔实验，那只是一个谁都可以完成的试验操作而已".请问您做过这个实验吗?实验结果和理论相符合吗?<br /> <br /> 很可惜以前那个科普的版块现在取消了,要不然,我建议您多去那个版块看看(看清楚,我说的是"看看",不是叫你"说说",您这个阶段还是多看少说比较好).<br /> 从整体上来看,不知道您想说什么,说的内容也漏洞百出,没漏洞的话也都是废话.对于您的看法,我有两个观点,一是很佩服您的勇气和毅力,勇于把自己的无知公示给大众,2003年注册的号了,现在还在用,是不是老大刚开坛你就来讲法了?另外一点就是觉得您有一点还是满明智的,知道不把这种帖子发到理论版块里,而是发到灌水版块里,这也是你难得的可取之处了.<br /> 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