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美国空军认为“F-22并非今日所需，而是为了对付明天的威胁。因此，我们不是为了解决今天的问题在研制，而是要回答今天所能预料的明天会出现的所有可能的问题。我们考虑的是美国空军明天的空中优势。因此F-22必须组合有最好的隐身性、超音速巡航。一体化航空<a href="http://electronic.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">电子</a>系统、敏捷性以及作为制空权所需的对空、对地致命的打击和支援性。”<br /> <br /> 直到有一天，我突然发现中国铁血网上的网民忒他妈有远见了！！<br /> <br /> 美国当地时间2011年5月6号，五角大楼对F22战斗机却做出了“无限期停飞”的决定。美国空军称F22战斗机向机室供应氧气的制氧系统出现了问题。去年一架F22因氧气故障坠毁。据悉F22于2005年5月12号正式投入现役，是当代最昂贵的战斗机种之一。根据美国空军航空作战司令部下达的这一最新命令，F-22的飞行高度被限制在7600米以内。导致航空作战司令部作出这一决定的原因是，F-22安装的机载制氧系统存在严重缺陷。<br /> <br /> 以中国歼八-2两万多米的飞行高度和两倍音速的飞行速度，的确可以在F-22头上拉屎拉尿。<br /> <br /> 一个美国的技术神话破灭了！<br /> <br /> 中国的歼20横空飞出！！<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> *T Solar 高科技神炉的辉煌：美国知名厂商、高科技、全自动、傻瓜式的操作；只要有钱就能成为蓝宝石生长行业的霸主！！<br /> <br /> 06/07/2011 - 07:12 AM<br /> <br /> GT Solar喜获价值4.604亿美元的先进蓝宝石结晶炉订单<br /> <br /> 05/19/2011 - 11:47 PM<br /> <br /> GT Solar推出ASF100先进蓝宝石生长系统<br /> <br /> 05/18/2011 - 06:26 AM<br /> <br /> 更正并替换：GT Solar结晶生长炉喜获总价达8430万美元的多份新订单<br /> <br /> 05/11/2011 - 03:57 PM<br /> <br /> GT 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Solar公司神炉利用HEM技术生长<a href="http://material.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">晶体</a>优劣性。<br /> <br /> 氦气问题：氦气冷却，需要建氦气站、氦气循环系统，成本高，密封难；湍流引起缺陷；同时非真空生长容易引入微气泡。笔者记得国内最早引进HEM炉的是北京有色院的国晶辉；陆陆续续发表了几篇文章。原技术负责人是那木博士，目前是四联的技术副总，也没见四联继续引进HEM神炉。<br /> <br /> 由*T Solar神炉需要稳压想到的问题：美国电源要求电压±5V，所以来大陆的设备都需配稳压器，为什么呢？因为籽晶在底部，晶体生长过程晶体生长率以及生长界面的位置不能直接观察或<a href="http://opticaltest.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">测量</a>问题，是个靠测温度模拟的过程，温度变化是无法真正反应晶体生长率和界面的位置，十分容易生长过快引起大量的缺陷，所以对电压的稳定是苛刻。所以HEM的晶体的云层和微散点是不能很好的控制的。<br /> <br /> （笔者有幸从几个厂商手中得到几段*T提供给客户的晶棒，相信敢拿给客户的东西*T认为不错了；在几个端面抛光后和<a href="http://theory.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">理论</a>预测是一样的）<br /> <br /> 单晶性问题：HEM法籽晶在底部以及晶体和坩埚壁接触，会产生应力或寄生成核，容易多晶，单晶性一定不好。而单晶性是衬底级蓝宝石的第一关键参数。<br /> <br /> (远的不说，合肥晶桥长的那玩意刚好来解释这个理论）<br /> <br /> 当年Crystal Systems利用HEM技术生长蓝宝石单晶后，继续想利用该技术生长Si单晶，结果一个失败的<a href="http://b.oecr.com/sell" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">产品</a>居然瞎猫碰死耗子，长出的多晶能用于<a href="http://solar.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">太阳能</a>电池。目前有人想，在屁股底下加根籽晶来做准单晶........多读点书，加不加籽晶结果都是一样的。<br /> <br /> 材料纯度问题：材料的纯度是衬底级蓝宝石的第二关键参数，那么GT公司的HEM法的材料纯度如何？GT公司的HEM法不管你用多高纯度的氧化铝都不会生长出高纯度的晶体。<br /> <br /> 污染源有三个，钼、碳、碳化钼。<br /> <br /> 由于钼坩锅的特性，以及钼在蓝宝石熔液中的分凝系数问题，该方法长出的晶体会发蓝，蓝宝石材料中钼含量偏高。（云南玉溪的也存在这个问题，不过加热方式的不同，玉溪的蓝宝石不会有碳和碳化钼的问题）<br /> <br /> 使用石墨发热体和石墨保温材料，必然会使得材料中的碳含量偏高，晶体发黑发红。碳会影响电光效率，同时会加快衰减。<br /> <br /> 查一下化学手册，就可以知道，900°钼开始吸收碳、1300-1400°C生成脆性的Mo3C ；小散点的起因之一。同时C和Mo的反应问题也决定了钼坩锅在石墨发热体的情况下只能一次性使用。<br /> <br /> 钼、碳、碳化钼在衬底材料中的存在，必然会影响最终二极管的<a href="http://light.oecr.com" target="_blank" class="relatedlink">发光</a>效率。<br /> <br /> （笔者这几天几乎访问了台湾所有的MOCVD厂家，实际情况是早有人拿GT 的晶体棒在台湾做成衬底片在MOCVD做认证了，结果 在MOCVD出来的片子的亮度上不去，笔者的理论分析得到验证）<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 成品率问题：目前关于*T Solar设备的良品率存在三个说法和一句话，大部分买家混淆了每炉能长多少晶棒和多少能用的概念。有家公司我问了多少能用的问题甚至闷了，说从来没有想过这个问题。关于*T设备每炉能用的晶体有多少有三个版本，4000mm/每炉、3500mm/每炉、1700mm/每炉，还有一句话“*T设备出来的晶棒百分百可以用于LED衬底”。<br /> <br /> 呵呵，这句话很有意思，*T的营销公关人员深的中国文化的要领。这句话可以理解为*T设备长出的晶体的利用率在100%，即每炉有4000多mm可以用于LED衬底。这句话也可以这么理解，不管良品率，总能长出一些晶体肯定（百分百）可以用于LED衬底。<br /> <br /> 大家怎么理解这句话？ 合肥晶桥的神炉看来也不是那么神，大家拭目以待扬州吉星的神炉开炉吧。。。。。。。。。<br /> <br /> 成本问题：<br /> <br /> *T公司卖给国内*大头公司的坩锅售价5000欧元左右，分别按1500~1700mm、3000mm、4500mm成本不低是多少呢？ 2美元/mm<br /> <br /> *T神炉的价格大约在60~70万美元，5年折旧，每年12万美元，每月1万美元，按神炉100%的良率每月出5000mm， 2美元/mm<br /> <br /> *T神炉的氦气系统、稳压器................................. 1美元/mm<br /> <br /> 其余成本还有高纯的石墨系统，电费.............各位看官都会算了。<br /> <br /> *T神炉如果没有神一样的良率100%，成本真的死的很难看！<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 政治因素的可行性分析：*T的美国高科技技术管控输出肯定存在问题！RUBICON的蓝宝石产品直径超过6寸以上,厚度超3毫米的蓝宝石要美国国务院同意的，属于导弹关键部件，禁止出口；RUBICON也绝对禁止在国外设长晶厂。而*T神炉可以长8英寸晶片，不限制出口，而且还可以把设备厂放在中国，真是神炉啊！<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 美国*T目前的经营策略：由于可预见性的太阳能设备即将走向衰落 ，*T公司的找个概念先把公司股票炒高，该套现的赶紧套现，该拿的定金先拿，大不了到时候破产，有美国政府这个大流氓公司罩着，中国公司企图在美国打官司告*T公司............大家认为结果如何？？<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 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rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_824831"> <i class="pstatus"> 本帖最后由 justcone 于 2011-6-17 10:15 编辑 </i><br /> <br /> 楼主分析的不无道理，不过就目前中国长晶炉市场来说，GT的炉子还是很好的满足了市场需求的，不过这方面的发展实在是太快了，美国不要的技术咱中国吸收消化了用不了多久也会抛弃的，所以我认为投资GT不宜太大，或者投资收益后花大力气技术改进.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> [sub] 本公司专业生产用于蓝宝石晶体生长的钨坩埚（尺寸最大，品种最全。且占全世界高端钨坩埚市场70%以上市场份额），钨发热体，钼屏蔽，钨钼热场（专业的热场设计经验为您提供最可靠的钨钼热场），等一系列产品。主要客户有美国的Rubicon，俄罗斯的Apeks, Ezan，Monocrystal。韩国的Astek，STC。台湾的鑫晶钻等。详细信息请查看我们公司蓝宝石产品的专业网站。chinatungstens.com株洲佳邦难熔金属有限公司。联系：电话：0731-28410199 传真：0731-28415766 手机：13873335863 吴经理 13873356863 徐经理 [/sub]</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_824831" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_824831"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition824831"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po 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class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=172325&page=1&authorid=18789" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_824879"> 另一方面，在1300～1400度的时候，蓝宝石与石墨会有一个反应的过程，形成一种新的玩意，所以啊，这里面的石墨不是一般的石墨就能用的</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_824879" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_824879"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition824879"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=40&tid=172325&repquote=824879&extra=page%3D1&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=172325&pid=824879&hash=35c67d04" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" 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src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=123924&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=172325&pid=825150" id="postnum825150" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>6</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon825150" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton825150">发表于 2011-6-17 22:26:49</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=172325&page=1&authorid=123924" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_825150"> 看了，但有几点不解。兆晶用了GT的棒，再买设备。那应该说明材料是可以的。另外，这么多人买GT的设备，有国企，有私企，总不会人家都是傻瓜，被骗，真的是众人皆醉？？ </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_825150" class="cm"> </div> 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onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/showip.small.gif" alt="" /> IP卡</a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/home.php?mod=magic&mid=checkonline&idtype=user&id=zz1876" id="a_repent_825153" class="xi2" onclick="showWindow(this.id, this.href)"><img src="static//image/magic/checkonline.small.gif" alt="" /> 狗仔卡</a> </div> <div id="avatarfeed"><span id="threadsortswait"></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="avatar"><a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-123924.html" class="avtm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=123924&size=middle" /></a></div> </div> </div> </td> <td class="plc"> <div class="pi"> <strong> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=172325&pid=825153" id="postnum825153" onclick="setCopy(this.href, '帖子地址复制成功');return false;"> <em>7</em>楼</a> </strong> <div class="pti"> <div class="pdbt"> </div> <div class="authi"> <img class="authicn vm" id="authicon825153" src="static/image/common/online_member.gif" /> <em id="authorposton825153">发表于 2011-6-17 22:40:40</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=172325&page=1&authorid=123924" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_825153"> 看了新闻，GT Solar完成蓝宝石生产工厂扩建 仅耗时不到8个月。<br /> 我觉得，GT至少是靠谱的。 至少人家自己在建厂大规模长晶。所以这篇文章有点偏激啊。我觉得要看事实。现在有说这家好，那家好，国产好，俄罗斯好。也有说这些都不好。不排除互相攻击，或确实设备不成熟，或企业自己技术不行。<br /> 所以还得看大规模投产后，才知道是否合适。再说了，CZ，KY，HEM等那么多技术路线，也不是哪个都能合适自己企业的。云南的自己的技术就很不错阿，很合适它自己的。<br /> 所以说HEM不行，或许很片面，结论下得太早了吧。</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_825153" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_825153"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition825153"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a 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rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_825264"> 反正就这几个月了,国内多家GT的炉子都到货了,2-3个月内还拿不出合格的晶体来那就说明问题了</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_825264" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_825264"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition825264"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=40&tid=172325&repquote=825264&extra=page%3D1&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=172325&pid=825264&hash=35c67d04" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_825264').innerHTML ? $('review_support_825264').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span 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id="authorposton825451">发表于 2011-6-18 16:46:44</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=172325&page=1&authorid=128794" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_825451"> 牛人确实很了解蓝宝石晶体生长方法和目前大陆的整个的全面情况，（GT在江西的一套也就要试机投产了，到时看吧）不简单，佩服！以后可以多交流和请教。但是就文章中讲到的合肥晶桥的100公斤级蓝宝石梨晶不是你讲到热交换法生长的，是改良泡生法生长出的，成本和此点都不会热交换法那么高的，因为他们的设备不是GT SOLAR的，是美国K-one的。还有上海（香港注册）CRYSALTECH（实际浙江）的改良泡生法目前能生长的晶体为35公斤，听说年底要出60公斤的炉子，生产成本会比GT的低很多，但生长率和利用率都会少一些，炉子价格一套下来也不便宜，目前35公斤级的就要45万美元左右了，性价真的比不高，希望国产蓝宝石晶炉100公斤级的早日投产成功，设备利润也同时看稍微低一点，到时我们也会参与进去的，谢谢！</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_825451" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_825451"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition825451"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div 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rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_825457"> 哪儿有国产100公斤级的蓝宝石炉</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_825457" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_825457"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition825457"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" href="forum.php?mod=post&action=reply&fid=40&tid=172325&repquote=825457&extra=page%3D1&page=1" onclick="showWindow('reply', this.href)">回复</a> <a class="replyadd" href="forum.php?mod=misc&action=postreview&do=support&tid=172325&pid=825457&hash=35c67d04" onclick="showWindow('login', this.href)" onmouseover="this.title = ($('review_support_825457').innerHTML ? $('review_support_825457').innerHTML : 0) + ' 人 支持'">支持 <span 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