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id="authorposton822605">发表于 2011-6-11 07:09:17</em> <span class="pipe">|</span> <a href="http://bbs.oecr.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=168820&page=6&authorid=27386" rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_822605"> 这个家伙在美国机载激光武器上的描述也如出一辙，显然是同一个人。<br /> <br /> 是什么造就了这样一个垃圾一样的人？是这个社会，确切的说是我们的和事老和老好人浇灌了他。对这样的人禁言，居然会蹦出N个所谓的受害者来给他说好话，说什么：“他也骂我了，但我不觉得有什么”。就是这些受虐狂，被人骂了还要拍手叫好的人，被人砍了还给罪犯求情的人助长了他嚣张的气焰。<br /> “为什么要禁言，太过分了，应该给出个说法，人都有言论自由，”。你们放心，每次禁言的时候都会填上理由和原因的。人的自由是相对的，如果因为个别人的自由，伤害了别人，就是不允许。不要说什么过分不过分的。谁愿意被骂可以单独找他聊天，别在这里冒充好人。<br /> <br /> liluplanet挺好，揪出了这个垃圾的狐狸尾巴。</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_822605" class="cm"> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_822605"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition822605"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div 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rel="nofollow">只看该作者</a> </div> </div> </div><div class="pct"><div class="pcb"> <div class="t_fsz"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="t_f" id="postmessage_822636"> 没有想到揭露波音公司美国机载激光武器只是一个骗局、揭露北京工业大学教授们的荒唐的相当于100微米直径NA0.22光纤耦合近1000瓦的LD激光的荒唐论文，揭露中国科学院西安光机所1000瓦的单模光纤激光是造假，用线光机所提供的试验数据证明这是造假！用全球激光销售的铁的事实，证明了这个IPG的光纤激光器亮度不如CO2激光器，国内的时间也证明了这些，揭露了在中国激光界存在的“皇帝新衣”现象，同时也推导了所谓的光纤激光器（6+1）-1合束，全光纤激光器的错误，在这些铁的事实面前，就有些人害怕、在一次次辩论中故意转移、搅和，今天还有人提出影响了他的自由，需要禁言！您害怕什么？<br /> <br /> 反过来您们对于这样的言论“解放初期中共屠杀了3000万人，3年自然灾害饿死3000万人”大加欣赏，不觉荒唐话吗，短短三年饿死了3000万，平均20个人中有一人被枪毙，有一人被饿死。任何一个家庭都不止20人家庭成员，您的同学就不止200个，这部就家家都有饿死人，家家都有血泪史，这个政权能够稳定吗？<br /> 您们对于这些可笑的言论不加禁言，害怕我揭露猖狂的学术造假，您们是什么人？？？<br /> 我对于“饿死三千”这种言论，一点不害怕，因为经不起推论。<br /> <br /> <br /> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_822636" class="cm"> <h3 class="psth xs1"><span class="icon_ring vm"></span>点评</h3> <div class="pstl xs1 cl"> <div class="psta vm"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-107795.html" c="1"><img 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第二、杜撰的整形效率，北京工业大学的教授们说，使用8支80瓦的LD，整形效率87，5%，1200瓦，在小于36毫米毫弧度（全角、直径）内输出1050瓦激光。<br /> A。LD本身非i偏振输出10%；<br /> B。四波长合束，膜系损耗10%，四波长合束校正损耗大于10%；<br /> 这样也就损耗大于30%。<br /> <br /> 第三、由于这篇论文的杜撰，所以这些教授、博士们一不小心，把自己的论文中画出的光学系统给损伤了。<br /> 这篇论文画的光学系统是使用的格兰棱镜，承受1000瓦的光功率，教授、博士们又说整形后光斑是22毫米*2毫米，这样照射在格兰棱镜上的光功率密度是2000瓦/平方厘米以上，他们没有想到 liluplanet 先生提供的外国公司的数据，损伤阈值是500瓦？平方厘米。<br /> liluplanet 先生真要感谢您！ <br /> <br /> 最后，就是揭露他们整形过程的杜撰，这是核心！</td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_822660" class="cm"> <h3 class="psth xs1"><span class="icon_ring vm"></span>点评</h3> <div class="pstl xs1 cl"> <div class="psta vm"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-107795.html" c="1"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=107795&size=small" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-107795.html" class="xi2 xw1">liluplanet</a> </div> <div class="psti"> 光纤输出和自由空间输出的功率本来就不是一个数量级的，恐怕您不知道吧？ 我给出的格兰棱镜只是个参考，而您把他人给出的参考捏到自己攻击的对象上， 您知不知道您的言论很可笑吗? <span class="xg1"> 发表于 2011-6-11 11:29</span> </div> </div> </div> <div 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class="t_f" id="postmessage_822716"> liluplanet 先生，本帖子是揭露北京工业大学的教授、博士在论文上杜撰数据造假，我的观点是有依据的，我从波长合束上、偏振合束上判断他们杜撰数据！<br /> 从您提供的外国公司的数据，格兰棱镜损伤阈值500瓦/平方厘米，北京工业大学教授们的文章已经达到2273瓦/平方厘米，已经远远超过这个损伤阈值了。<br /> <br /> 您认为我的帖子不对是垃圾，您最好用事实、理论来论证您的观点，不过您要狡辩，也没有关系。这些论点已经足够我写一篇文章质疑北京工业大学、教育部、中国激光杂志社，中国激光杂志社主编周院士了。<br /> 这几个关键点，不复杂，很容易说的清楚。<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_822716" class="cm"> <h3 class="psth xs1"><span class="icon_ring vm"></span>点评</h3> <div class="pstl xs1 cl"> <div class="psta vm"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-107795.html" c="1"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=107795&size=small" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-107795.html" class="xi2 xw1">liluplanet</a> </div> <div class="psti"> 关于波长偏振合束损耗，我没有什么经验，也没有什么数据支持，我也从来就没跟你在这些东西上辩论，我说的是你篡改别人原话，我看这几个关键点你是说不清了 <span class="xg1"> 发表于 2011-6-11 17:23</span> </div> </div> <div class="pstl xs1 cl"> <div class="psta vm"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-107795.html" 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包括组织内的，也都可以从侧面证实这点”<br /> 好像还说过3000万饿死数据国家统计局提供的数据。<br /> <br /> </td></tr></table> </div> <div id="comment_822735" class="cm"> <h3 class="psth xs1"><span class="icon_ring vm"></span>点评</h3> <div class="pstl xs1 cl"> <div class="psta vm"> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-83803.html" c="1"><img src="http://www.oecr.com/uc_server/avatar.php?uid=83803&size=small" /></a> <a href="http://club.oecr.com/space-uid-83803.html" class="xi2 xw1">弥勒</a> </div> <div class="psti"> 关于北工大那篇论文，确实有造假的成分。但现在论文造假的多了去了，这个大家已经都知道了。OPTRO兄还是多花点精力多揭发一些其他的比较好。有句话叫做对事不对人。关于3000万的事情没什么好说的，各人保持自己观点 <span class="xg1"> 发表于 2011-6-11 17:08</span> </div> </div> </div> <div id="post_rate_div_822735"></div> </div> </div> </td></tr> <tr><td class="plc plm"> </td> </tr> <tr id="_postposition822735"></tr> <tr> <td class="pls"></td> <td class="plc" style="overflow:visible;"> <div class="po hin"> <div class="pob cl"> <em> <a class="fastre" 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